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October 2011 Term Supreme Court Preview (Podcast Transcript)
TRANSCRIPT – Supreme Court Preview - April 2011
Welcome to the Supreme Court Preview presented by the Legal Division of
the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. In this 25 minute
podcast, you will hear from three attorney instructors assigned to the
legal division as they provide you with information regarding upcoming
Supreme Court cases.
First, let’s listen to Mr. Jeff Fluck as he describes a couple of
important upcoming cases that have Fourth amendment implications.
Hello, my name is Jeffrey Fluck. I am a retired Army judge
advocate and have been a senior instructor in the Legal Division at
FLETC for more than 9 years.
This term, the Supreme Court will decide 2 cases affecting our
understanding of the 4th Amendment.
First, the limits of the exclusionary rule will be considered by the
Supreme Court in the Davis case.
Specifically, the Davis case will consider whether the good-faith
exception should allow evidence:
- seized before the Supreme Court’s Gant case made the seizure
unlawful
- when the evidence was offered in a trial that occurred
after the Gant case was decided.
Let’s start with the Davis case from the 11th Circuit.
Davis v. United States:
Arizona v. Gant had not been decided when police stopped a car in
Greeneville, Alabama. Willie Gene Davis was a passenger.
After Davis and several others in the car were arrested, a
search-incident-to-arrest of the passenger compartment produced Davis’s
revolver from the pocket of the jacket he had left inside. That
revolver led to his conviction and 220 months of imprisonment. At
the time, the search was proper under both the Supreme Court’s Belton
case and 11th Circuit precedent.
Then Arizona v. Gant established that such searches could only be
performed if either: [1] arrestees could still access the
passenger compartment; or [2] it was reasonable to believe that
evidence of the crime of arrest was in the passenger compartment.
Neither of these conditions had been met.
Despite finding that the search violated Arizona v. Gant, the 11th
Circuit allowed the conviction to stand, saying:
In this case, [police] performed a search that our contemporaneous
interpretation of Belton clearly permitted. Had the Supreme Court not
subsequently rejected that interpretation in Gant, we undoubtedly would
have upheld the search as constitutional. Because the search was
objectively reasonable under our then-binding precedent, suppressing
the gun found in Davis’s jacket would serve no deterrent purpose. In
accordance with our holding that the good faith exception allows the
use of evidence obtained in reasonable reliance on well-settled
precedent, we refuse to apply the exclusionary rule here. Davis’s
conviction is affirmed.
Now, not every Circuit has agreed that the good faith exception applies
in this kind of situation to allow admitting evidence even if it was
obtained in violation of the Fourth Amendment. This case gives
the Supreme Court the opportunity to settle that disagreement.
The case was argued on 21 March 2011.
Second, the Supreme Court will potentially consider whether and how the
Fourth Amendment applies to law enforcement interviews of potential
victims in the consolidated cases of Greene v. Camreta and Greene v.
Alford.
Greene v. Camreta; Greene v. Alford:
In February 2003, Oregon police arrested Nimrod Greene for the drunken
sexual abuse of a 7-year-old boy. The boy’s mother told
authorities that Greene’s wife, Sarah, was worried that the same thing
might be going on with the couple’s two daughters. The caseworker
assigned to the case, Bob Camreta, found out that Nimrod had been
released from custody and might have access to his daughters.
Camreta and a deputy sheriff (Alford) went to the daughters’ school and
interviewed the older daughter for two hours. The caseworker’s
and the Greene family’s accounts of this interview and later dealings
between them differ sharply.
Nimrod was charged with abusing the 7-year-old boy and his older
daughter. The first jury deadlocked. At that point Nimrod
entered an Alford plea on the charges involving the boy. The
charges involving the girl were dismissed.
This Supreme Court case arises from a § 1983 suit Sarah filed later on
behalf of her 9-year-old daughter. Among other things, the suit
alleged that the “in-school seizure of [the daughter] without a
warrant, parental consent, probable cause, or exigent circumstances
violated the Fourth Amendment.”
The Ninth Circuit, after finding that the school interview did violate
the Fourth Amendment, nevertheless granted qualified immunity to the
caseworker and deputy because the law was not clearly established at
the time of the interview.
The case has reached the Supreme Court.
Although other issues are in play, the ultimate issue remains whether
this interview of a minor victim / witness violates the Fourth
Amendment.
Child sexual abuse cases are not a big part of the federal law
enforcement caseload. But the Court may have to discuss a number
of preliminary questions to answer the ultimate issue. These
could include:
- Is a witness interview, as opposed to a suspect interview, a
“seizure” requiring compliance with the Fourth Amendment?
- If so, must LEO meet some standard that the witness has pertinent
information before they can conduct the interview? And if so,
what is that standard?
- If this is a seizure requiring Fourth Amendment compliance, does this
kind of situation routinely present an exigent circumstance excusing
first obtaining a warrant?
- Finally, what weight should be given to parental rights in resolving
these issues?
The Court’s discussion of these preliminary questions could have broad
implications for federal law enforcement.
The case was argued on 1 March 2011. Unfortunately, the Court’s
appeared to focus on procedural hurdles rather than the Fourth
Amendment issues. This suggests that the Court may not reach the
Fourth Amendment issues raised.
Finally, the Court dismissed a third Fourth Amendment case named
Tolentino v. New York.
James Tolentino had been stopped by police near the intersection of
181st Street and Broadway in New York City on New Year’s Day, 2005.
Police ran his name against the DMV database, learned that his license
had been suspended, and charged him with “aggravated unlicensed
operation of a motor vehicle in the first degree.”
Tolentino contended that he had been stopped without reasonable
suspicion of wrongdoing. He then argued that the database check
was the fruit of this unlawful stop and that the result should be
suppressed.
Although the Court initially accepted his appeal, they changed their
mind on 29 March 2011 and dismissed the appeal without a decision or
opinion.
Thank you Mr. Fluck. Next we will listen to Mr. Steve Knerly as
identifies the issues in an upcoming case with important Fifth
amendment ramifications.
Hi. My name is Steve Knerly. I am a Senior Legal Instructor
at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, where I serve as the
subject matter expert for matters involving the law of
self-incrimination and Miranda. In this briefing, I will give a
preview of the U.S. Supreme Court’s upcoming decision in the case of
J.D.B. v. North Carolina, a case involving the application of the
requirements of the Miranda decision when law enforcement officers
question juvenile suspects.
In J.D.B. v. North Carolina the Court will decide
whether the age of a juvenile suspect is a factor that must be
considered in determining whether the juvenile is “in custody” for
purposes of applying the requirements of the Miranda decision. In
Miranda, the Court created the now-familiar procedural rules that must
be followed whenever a suspect is questioned by law enforcement
officers while “in custody,” including administration of the Miranda
advice of rights or warning. Importantly, these procedural rules
only apply when the suspect is determined to be “in custody,” thus
making the determination of whether the suspect was in fact “in
custody” a particularly critical one. For the purpose of applying
Miranda, a suspect is “in custody” when under the totality of the
circumstances a reasonable person in the position of the suspect would
believe himself under formal arrest or under a restraint on his freedom
of movement to the degree associated with a formal arrest.
Notably, this test can result in a suspect being determined to be “in
custody” even when the suspect is not actually under arrest.
Here are the pertinent facts of the case being
considered by the Court. In September 2005, two homes were broken
into and items stolen, including a digital camera and jewelry.
J.D.B., then 13 years old and enrolled in seventh grade special
education classes in Middle School, became a suspect, when he was seen
behind another residence in the same neighborhood the same day and
later seen at school in possession of the stolen camera. A police
investigator went to his school, had the school resource officer escort
him from his class to a conference room, and interviewed him with the
assistant principal, the school resource officer, and an intern
present. The door was closed but not locked. The investigator did not
give J.D.B. Miranda warnings; no parent or guardian was contacted
beforehand; and no offer to J.D.B. was made to make such a
contact. The investigator did ask J.D.B. if he would agree to
answer questions about the break-ins and J.D.B. consented to do
so.
Initially, J.D.B. denied his involvement. The
assistant principal encouraged him to “do the right thing” and tell the
truth. When confronted by the investigator with the fact the
camera had been found, J.D.B. asked if he would still be in trouble if
he gave the items back. The investigator responded that it would
be helpful, but the matter would still be going to court and that he
may have to seek a secure custody order (resulting in his detention in
a juvenile facility). J.D.B. then confessed to breaking in the
houses and taking items together with another juvenile. The
investigator then informed J.D.B. that he did not have to talk with him
and that he was free to leave. The investigator asked J.D.B. if
he understood he was not under arrest and did not have to talk him, to
which J.D.B. responded by nodding “yes.” J.D.B. then provided
further details and a written statement. The interview lasted
30-45 minutes, with J.D.B. being allowed to leave at the closing bell
and catch his bus home.
J.D.B.’s statements were used in juvenile
proceedings against him, leading to the court’s adjudication of his
delinquency. During the trial, the court denied his motion to
suppress the statements on grounds that they were taken in violation of
Miranda, holding that J.D.B. was not in custody during the questioning
and the Miranda protections therefore did not apply. J.D.B.
appealed first to the Court of Appeals and then to the North Carolina
Supreme Court, both of which affirmed the trial court’s decision, but
with strong dissents by some of the justices. The United States
Supreme Court accepted the case for review, with oral argument before
the Court held on March 23, 2011. In addition to briefs by the
parties, six amicus (sometimes called, “Friend of the Court”) briefs
have been filed with and accepted by the Court – five by various
organizations supporting J.D.B., and one by the United States
supporting North Carolina.
In its brief, the State of North Carolina argued
that the lower courts had correctly found that J.D.B. was not “in
custody” during his questioning by applying the proper objective
test. Under that test, the totality of the circumstances did not
support that a reasonable person in J.D.B.’s position would believe
himself under formal arrest or otherwise subject to a restraint on
freedom of movement of a degree associated with formal arrest.
The questioning was done without the application of handcuffs, in an
unlocked room, and with no officer guarding the door.
J.D.B.’s cooperation was initially requested, rather than
demanded. He was later clearly told, and he understood, he was
free to leave. While the school setting with school officials
present was somewhat restricting, J.D.B.’s freedom of movement was not
restricted to any significantly greater degree than is common in the
school environment in general.
J.D.B., in his brief, argued that the proper test
for the Miranda “in custody” determination must consider the age of a
juvenile suspect, which was not applied in his case. As he
argues, the test should be whether a reasonable person of J.D.B.’s age
(i.e., a 13 year old) would have believed himself under formal arrest
or restrained in his movement to the degree associated with formal
arrest. He notes facts that include he was removed and escorted
from class by an armed officer, unable to lawfully leave the school,
questioned in a closed room in the presence of significant adult
authority figures, and told he might be ordered to juvenile
detention. Applying this test, J.D.B. asserts he would have been
found to have been “in custody” during the questioning without having
been provided his Miranda rights, requiring suppression of his
statements.
As can be seen, the key disagreement between the
parties is the propriety and desirability of incorporating
consideration of a juvenile suspect’s age in the Miranda custody
determination. The proponents believe that the objective
“reasonable person” must be modified when dealing with juvenile
suspects in order to recognize their unique vulnerabilities and give
them the practical protections intended by Miranda. The
opponents, on the other hand, believe the test should be truly
objective, without consideration of a subject’s individual
characteristics. In their view, juvenile suspects need no special
consideration under Miranda. They note a juvenile suspect has
adequate age-sensitive protections under the Fifth Amendment, in that
his age, education, intelligence, etc. are all considered in the
totality of the circumstances test to determine the voluntariness of
any statement he makes that is offered against him in a criminal
case. If determined to be involuntary due to coercive police
tactics, the statements would be inadmissible. As
counter-arguments, the proponents assert that age is an objective
factor. They also justify the need for greater protection of
juveniles from police coercion by citing various studies and experts
suggesting that juveniles are significantly more likely to give false
confessions than adults.
Thank you Mr. Knerly. Last but not least, Mr. Bruce Landrum will
explain an upcoming case that has an interesting Sixth Amendment
issue.
Hello, and welcome. My name is Bruce Landrum and I am an
instructor with the Legal Division at the Federal Law Enforcement
Training Center. One of my specialty areas in the Legal Division
curriculum is the area of courtroom evidence law, including the
application of the Confrontation Clause of the 6th Amendment to the
U.S. Constitution.
As it turns out, the U.S. Supreme Court has been pretty active recently
in addressing Confrontation Clause issues. Under the
Confrontation Clause, a criminal defendant has the right to cross
examine any witness who testifies against him. However, in
certain circumstances, the prior statements of a witness can be
admitted at trial instead of live testimony, even when the witness is
unavailable for cross-examination.
The Court has explained that witness statements fall into one of two
categories, either “testimonial” or “non-testimonial.” Statements
that are “testimonial” are subject to the Confrontation Clause.
Statements that are “non-testimonial” are analyzed under traditional
hearsay rules to determine their admissibility at trial, and so they
might be admissible even when the witness who made the statement is not
available for cross-examination.
In Davis v. Washington, decided in 2006, the Supreme Court held that a
statement by a witness is “non-testimonial”, and therefore not subject
to the Confrontation Clause cross-examination requirement, if the
statement is made in the course of police interrogation under
circumstances objectively indicating that the primary purpose of the
interrogation is to enable police assistance to meet an ongoing
emergency. On the other hand, statements are testimonial
when the circumstances objectively indicate that the primary purpose of
the interrogation is to establish or prove past events potentially
relevant to later criminal prosecution.
In Michigan v. Bryant the Court recently decided that statements made
to officers by a recent shooting victim, who later died, are admissible
at trial, because those statements were obtained by officers to deal
with an ongoing emergency, and not primarily intended to be used at
trial. In the Bryant case, police went to a gas station in
response to a call that a man had been shot. Officers questioned
the victim, who told them that he had been shot a half hour earlier
while standing outside the back door of the defendant’s residence, and
that he had driven himself to the gas station. He
identified the defendant as the shooter and gave the officers the
defendant’s address. The victim died several hours later at the
hospital. At the defendant’s trial, the victim’s statements to
the officers were ruled to be “non-testimonial” under Davis because
they were made in the course of a police interrogation under
circumstances objectively indicating that their primary purpose was to
enable police assistance to meet an ongoing emergency. The
statements were admitted at trial as “excited utterances,” one of the
exceptions to the general rule against the use of hearsay evidence at
trial. After being convicted of murder, the defendant appealed,
and, as I mentioned, after a lengthy appeals process, the U.S. Supreme
Court held that this was the correct result. The Court explained
that, even though the victim was describing past events instead of an
ongoing emergency at that location, this did not negate the fact that a
shooter was still at large and potentially dangerous to the public and
police. Hence the primary purpose of the inquiry was to deal with
the ongoing emergency.
Shortly after releasing the opinion in Michigan v. Bryant, the Supreme
Court heard oral argument on another Confrontation Clause case, the
case of Bullcoming v. New Mexico. The issue in this case is a bit
different than the issue presented in Davis and Bryant.
In the Bullcoming case, the defendant was convicted of drunk driving,
based in part on the laboratory report of his blood alcohol
content. The report contained test results recorded and certified
by a particular laboratory analyst who was unavailable to testify at
trial.
Based on other prior Supreme Court cases, it was pretty clear that this
lab report was prepared with a primary purpose of being used to
prosecute the defendant, and therefore it was a “testimonial” statement
which would be subject to the requirements of the Confrontation
Clause. The novel approach used by the State of New Mexico in
this case was to argue that the report was not really a statement of
the lab analyst so much as a recording of the statement of the testing
machine. Thus the state argued that the analyst was a mere
scrivener and was not adding any content to the report that would
require his being available for cross-examination. Instead, the
state produced a substitute witness who was also qualified to operate
the machine and to interpret its results. This, they argued would
be sufficient to allow the defendant to cross-examine the machine
testing process.
The New Mexico Supreme Court affirmed this approach. The state
court concluded that even though the analyst who prepared the report
was not present at trial, he merely recorded “raw data” from the
machine and provided no interpretation of that data. Thus the
true “accuser” was the machine that tested the blood and generated a
print-out of the results of that test. When the prosecution
produced another qualified witness to interpret those test results at
trial, this satisfied the defendant’s confrontation rights because the
interpreting witness was subject to cross-examination.
On appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, the defendant’s counsel argued
that the Confrontation Clause was not satisfied by this “substitute
witness” procedure. In fact, they argued, the absent analyst had
actually performed the test using the machine and had read the results
and recorded them in the report. By signing the report, the
absent analyst certified the results as correct. A substitute
analyst might be able to explain how the machine works generally and
interpret the test results, but this substitute witness cannot testify
that the test was performed correctly, or that the results were
recorded correctly. Thus they argued, there is still a
significant Confrontation Clause interest that can only be satisfied by
production of the actual witness who performed the test and recorded
the results.
Another concern with using a substitute witness is that the opponent of
the evidence cannot cross-examine the witness who performed the test on
his or her own competence and qualifications to perform that test
correctly. In this case, the analyst who performed the test was
unavailable to testify at trial because he “was very recently put on
unpaid leave.” During oral argument, Justice Scalia raised the
issue of potential abuse by asking why the analyst was on unpaid
leave. Was he fired due to incompetence or misconduct? This
concern highlights another important purpose of subjecting the witness
to cross-examination. If the government is allowed to use
substitute witnesses in cases like this, the door would be opened to
manipulating the system by “hiding” witnesses whose appearance might
detract from the prosecution’s case.
After a lively hour-long argument before the Supreme Court, the case of
Bullcoming v. New Mexico is now pending decision with the Court.
Stay tuned to the FLETC Legal Division website for our future report on
how this and other pending cases are ultimately resolved by the U.S.
Supreme Court.
Thank you Mr. Landrum. Well that concludes this edition of
the FLETC Legal Division Supreme Court Preview. Make sure you
keep an eye out for a review of how the Supreme Court decides these
cases in the FLETC Informer. You can find digital versions of the
FLETC Informer as well as other helpful legal resources on our website
at www.flect.gov/legal.

